January 8, 2021 at 12:26 pm, although high and rather uncomfortable, the temperatures are well within the manufacturer's tolerances. Repasting might help lower these temperatures, but don’t expect much, plus it voids warranty and it’s not something most would be willing to do. Finally, I’d expect Asus to offer G14 configurations with 16 GB of soldered memory at some point as they do for the G15, which would allow 32 GB in dual-channel, but that’s not yet an option right now. Nonetheless, updates are coming for the Intel i7s as well with their 10th gen platform, so we’ll see how those fair against the AMD Ryzen H lineup in future articles. There’s no other laptop like the Zephyrus G14 right now, with the same sort of performance in the same kind of compact form-factor and premium build. For everyone still following, I've posted an updated article on the G14 with my experience using it for the last months. Anandtech even tested it in their review. But this is not for everyone, and I can understand why some of you might go with some of the other types of options mentioned above. Real notebook reviews and analysis by real people. Still, brightness aside, the differences between these two are minimal. But I read on your review that the G15 at 144Hz is not that great and the 240 would be better (but the 240 is not on sale). Hi, I would like to ask a few questions. This aside, the base model Zephryus G14 GA401IH starts with a Ryzen 5 4600HS processor (6C/12T), 8 GB of RAM, 512 GB of storage and a GTX 1650 50W GPU, and the mid-tier Zephyrus G14 GA404IU variant gets 16 GB of RAM and GTX 1660 Ti 60W graphics, both with a FHD 120Hs screen. BTW, no need to go with the 4900H and 2060 model for your needs. I would be very interested as well. The power button is new, though. 120hz fine though for some time. Question regarding the soldered RAM stick: What's its speed? There are also configurations with 16 GB of RAM soldered on the motherboard, in case you want to put 32 GB in dual-channel on this laptop. That means the PSU is placed in the middle of the left side, somewhat annoying. The memory slot can take an up to 32 GB stick of RAM, but only 16 GB will work in dual-channel. I was also under the impression 32 GB is possible with this laptop, but right now looks like 24 is max, with 8 + 16 DIMM. There's also the slightly better IO on the ThinkPad (no TB3 on the G14), and what might be a nicer keyboard for most (not for me, I'm not a fan). This option is also brighter than the QHD panel, but its blacks are not as vibrant, which results in slightly lower contrast. Might be worth waiting for others, but I'd reckon we'll not see those new products sooner than Fall or Q4, plus I'd reckon they won't be cheap either. Battlefield V, The Witcher 3 – recorded with Fraps/in-game FPS counter in campaign mode; Far Cry 5, Middle Earth, Strange Brigade, Red Dead Redemption 2, Tomb Raider games – recorded with the included Benchmark utilities; Red Dead Redemption 2 Optimized profile based on. This article primarily covers the Ryzen 7 model, and we’ve reviewed the Ryzen 9 4900HS variant of the G14 in this separate article. These fans are always active though, on any of the modes. but like, I found this laptop for ~1k… you're gonna pay like double the price on same parts just for a display and a logo. Now, as far as gaming goes on this laptop, we ran a couple of DX11, DX12, and Vulkan titles on the default Turbo/Performance/Silent modes, on FHD and QHD resolutions. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Sure, gaming with the lid closed is going to expose a larger part of the panel to temperatures in the low to mid-40s as long as you place this G14 in a vertical stand, and mid to high-40s with it sitting on a desk, so I’d recommend using that stand. This configuration charges via a 180W compact brick, but it also supports USB-C charging up to 65W through the USB-C port on the left side. I received the white unit GA401IU 4800hs/1660ti maxq last week. For mouse, Asus went with a glass clickpad here. A full-size brick was required to power the components in this notebook, but USB-C charging is also supported through the USB-C port on the left side, at up to 65W. Asus went the same approach as on the higher-tier Zephyrus M and Zephyrus S lineups and offers an optional FHD external camera to those interested, but it’s not included in the box and you have to pay extra for it. On one hand, that would lower the temperatures, and on the other, would allow some extra headroom for the GPU, which might result in slightly improved framerates in most titles, especially those GPU bound. I have 0 problems with 4K 60Hz HDR or 1080p 120Hz HDR via HDMI. 3. update paths A dock ist not recommended if you plan to use 3 displays because the remaining bandwitdh won't be enough to support the other ports on the dock. The implemented backlighting is not very bright or uniform, and combined with the silver keys, makes the writing difficult to read in many situations. Hi there. Is the difference enough to want to swtich to the QHD screen? ASUS also has an alternative budget-friendly PC gaming laptop series called TUF (The Ultimate Force). November 24, 2020 at 11:11 pm. There’s a 76Wh battery inside this Rog Zephyrus G14 GA401, once more borrowed from the larger 15-inch Zephyrus models, and that’s a fair size for a 14-inch notebook these days. I have dell xps 15 9560 i5 which has very bad thermals, April 24, 2020 at 7:41 pm. I’ve asked Asus for another sample and we’ll update this section once we get it. We’ll look into this again once we get to test another unit. May 6, 2020 at 11:22 pm, The NVidia power draw in idle is caused by the Radeon settings. It might be not a laptop for heavy gammer. April 10, 2020 at 11:25 am. Screen: fantastic to see a decent screen finally at this size and with an AMD chipset. April 11, 2020 at 6:23 pm. The HWinfo logs below show the CPU and GPU speeds and temperatures in Farcry 5, Battlefield V and Witcher 3 on the stock Turbo FHD profile. ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop: Enjoy an immersive gaming experience with this ASUS ROG Zephyrus gaming laptop. First off, the thermal design splits the hot air coming out, sending part of it to the sides, part of it downwards and only some of it upwards. I will also start GPU undervolting experiments with Afterburner today. can you give me your thoughts on this 2 models or maybe recommend something else in this range. Sure, they’re within specified limits, but heat and electronics don’t play well together, and long-term, I’d feel more comfortable with a CPU that would run in the 80s and a GPU in the mid-70s. That's probably a dealbreaker for me. I was expecting better, tbh. Unless it's some really really good plastic that feels just like metal. That’s a QLC drive and is supposedly connected via a PCIe x4 connection, so not as fast as some of the more premium SSDs out there. If possible, I'd love to hear your updates, I've added your Reddit threads into the article as those should help the other readers. Not much though. Andrei Girbea, Editor-in-Chief of Ultrabookreview.com. This might sound counterintuitive, but it makes sense to me on these unbalanced laptops, with a significant performance gap between the CPU and GPU. Hi I live in Canada and it seems I can’t get the Zephyrus from anywhere. The whole thing also weighs 1.6 to 1.7 kilos between the different versions. Turbo – 44-45 dB with games (43 dB in Armoury Crate), 39-44 dB with Cinebench loop test; Performance – 41-42 dB with games (40 dB in Armoury Crate), 37-42 dB with Cinebench loop test; Silent – 35-37 dB with games (33 dB in Armoury Crate), 35-37 dB with Cinebench loop test, 30-33 dB (23 dB in Armoury Crate) with daily use. I just want a good performance laptop for both gaming and work. As shown in the Cinebench test, the CPU kicks in hard at 42W for a few minutes, during which time the fans ramp up to 46-47 dB at head-level, and then settles at 35W for the rest of the test, with roughly 72-75 C temperatures and 44-45 dB fans. With these out of the way, let’s look at some games. However, I noticed that gaming on the external monitor, but with the lid open, doesn’t trigger it. Since its not currently possible for me to physically see this laptop, I would like to know your opinion on how different the FHD 120 Hz panel is from the QHD 60 Hz panel in terms of contrast ratio and the colors. August 6, 2020 at 12:28 am. The G14 is what it is, a 14-inch performance notebook with an excellent keyboard, pretty good IO, and two alright screen options, but also a computer that runs hot with games and blows a fair bit of hot air into the screen. What do you think? :) I am struggling in buying either this laptop or a ASUS ROG Strix G15 G512LV, Intel® Core⢠i7-10870H up to 5.00 GHz, 15.6" Full HD, 144Hz, 16GB, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA® GeForce RTX⢠2060. Required fields are marked *. I also haven't really played with the Manual settings, I have a pile of other laptops waiting for me right now and have to move on. Gaming on Silent further quiets down the fans to about 35-37 dB at head-level (33 dB in Armory Crate), but also greatly limits the performance of the CPU (limited to 12W). The problem is the poor contrast with the white illumination turned on. We ran this on the Turbo Profile. You can also opt to play games on the Performance and Silent profiles. Next, we ran the entire suite of tests and benchmarks, first of all on the Performance profile in Armoury Crate. The audio is surprisingly loud and punchy for a small laptop, and the quality is definitely not bad either. In Australia laptops are more expensive and so I would need it to last longer before considering it. Mostly just gaming. July 14, 2020 at 8:46 pm. We'll see, too early to tell. Can you recommend a good light cooling pad? :( oh ok it is a sad news. Our test models are the top-tier Asus Zephyrus G14 GA401IV configurations with the AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS or Ryzen 9 4900HS processor, 16 GB of RAM, 1 TB of storage and dual graphics: the Nvidia RTX 2060 65W dGPU and the Vega 7/8 iGPU embedded within the AMD platform, which takes over with lighter use. 2. As far as upgrades go, getting inside to the components is easy and requires removing the back panel, and in here you get access to the SSD drive and the single memory stick. While the laptop runs cooler and quieter on Silent, that’s in conjunction with a significant drop in performance, so Gaming on this profile isn’t an option in most titles right now. Update: Our detailed review of the Ryzen 9 4900HS configuration is available here, if interested in how that fares against the Ryzen 7 version. As far as I can tell, that's metallic as well. Things change with demanding loads and games. He was not able to fix the black screen problem either despite showing my solution on reddit at the end. yeah, well, you need a big battery to get 5-6 hours of daily use on Core H, and most of those with big batteries are thin-and-light performance laptops. Manual – Same as Turbo, but allows to manually create fan curves for the CPU and GPU based on temperature thresholds. We’ll further look into these down below. *Gaming – Turbo â playing Far Cry 5 for 30 minutes, Turbo Profile, fans at 45-46 dB (43 dB in Armoury Crate) I don't think it's going to make much of a difference, Ryzen 9 and 7 are very similar in most ways. Amazon.ca Laptops: ROG Zephyrus G15 Ultra Slim Gaming Laptop, 15.6â 165Hz QHD, GeForce RTX 3060, AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 10 Home, Eclipse Gray- GA503QM-DS91-CA December 15, 2020 at 4:20 pm, Fair comment and sry for the time lost. It is flicker free (notebookcheck). Do you think these will be in time to be on sale in the back to school sale season? 2. While the base configurations only get a rather mediocre FHD 60 Hz 250-nits panel, the mid and top-tier versions are available with either an FHD 120 Hz or a QHD 60 Hz panel. Everywhere there is 32GB MAX also on AMD site for all ryzens 4000, May 29, 2020 at 11:08 am. Few to no titles scale over 8Core/16Threads right now, and most keep the CPU load at between 15-30%, while the GPU is fully loaded. You can also subscribe without commenting. Any other Linux based programmers here? So yeah, haha. Warranty conditions vary between regions. All these start at $1049/999 GBP/1099 EUR for the GA401IH variant, with the top-tier configuration of the GA401IV going for $1999/1599GBP/1799 EUR. Here’s what to expect from this laptop with daily use on Silent (Youtube, Netflix, Typing) and Performance (Browsing). Asus put a quad-chamber system in the G14, with two main speakers firring through the bottom and two smaller tweeters firing through the grills in the arm-rest. There are however a few other aspects to consider. For the most part, apps and browsers scale well, but I’ve noticed fuzziness on the QHD panel in Word or Winrar or Total Commander. I also have some 4800H laptops on the side, and they do about 9W per hour with video. The front lip and corners are blunted and friendly to the wrists, the screen can be easily raised and adjusted with a single hand, and grippy rubber feet keep this nicely anchored on the desk, even with the screen raised on its small feet, with the Ergo Lift hinge design. My main concerns are screen quality and build quality with the g14. If you remove the settings app and install the driver mnually the draw is gone. BTW, could you verify my findings when gaming on an external monitor? next gen Ryzen and Ampere will be available in a month or so, but as you're saying, most likely won't come cheap. The G14 is not as small, as thin or as light as those gaming ultrabooks mentioned earlier. It raises the main-body on rubber feet placed at the bottom of the screen part, creating a slightly inclined typing position and extra space underneath, which helps draw fresh air easier into the cooling system. That's why I mentioned it as a pro for the Thinkpad, normally you can get better warranty and support with them, April 15, 2020 at 11:47 am. It came some days ago via Windows Update. Many... 2020 Holiday Deals on ultrabooks and portable laptops, The search for the best wireless keyboard: Logitech K400 Plus vs. K830 vs. MX Keys, Fanless and silent laptops, Chromebooks and ultrabooks in 2021 – a detailed list, Asus ZenBook 13 UX325JA vs ZenBook 14 UX425JA compared, Copyright © 2011-2019 Ultrabookreview.com. The FHD panel is 20% brighter in our tests, which makes it a more appropriate option for bright-light environments. May 13, 2020 at 12:51 pm. The 1660 Ti is only marginally slower than the 2060, if ray-tracing isn't a deal-breaker. I plan on coming back to this in a month or two and see if anything might have changed. Asus offers three panel options for the Zephyrus G14, either IPS FHD 120 Hz with ActyveSync or IPS QHD 60 Hz with ActiveSync, as well as a base-level 60 Hz IPS panel for the entry-level configuration. May 22, 2020 at 6:32 am, There are several things wrong with this article That issue is likely to blame for some reviewers reporting great battery life while others report only 5 hours with light loads. The latest analysis, news, findings and scoops on ultrabooks and ultra-portable laptops. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. So basically it is useless on silent mode. It’s a joint effort from Asus, AMD and Nvidia and brings-up a competent Ryzen 4000 HS hardware platform and up to Nvidia RTX 2060 graphics in a compact premium chassis, without compromising on ergonomics, battery life or screen quality. May 20, 2020 at 3:42 pm. Just keep in mind that the White version comes with a silver keyboard with white lighting, and that is the main reason I'd steer towards the Gray model instead. Good thermals, atleast playing PUBG on decent graphics for 2 hours straight should not create problems, 3. Maybe they’ll release more in June or something? thin 15" models)? But with a PCIe x4 connection, it can be swapped for something faster if needed. Still, keep in mind the Ryzen 7 and the 9 are both 8-Core/16-Thread processors with similar traits, just slightly faster clocks and improved integrated graphics for the 9. This HS should be a little better, but then there's also the QHD screen to consider with this configuration. The Zephyrus G14 is a 14-inch notebook and smaller than even the smallest 15-inch performance ultraportable. Kind of wishing asus offered 2-3 year warranties. Finally, we should also touch on the specs and overall performance of this Rzyen 9 4900HS configuration. Nicer made, slammer, more portable, higher quality screen, etc. Now, I’ve already covered the G14 in a previous detailed review and a comparison to the larger G15 and A15 models based on similar AMD hardware, so this article is not another review. First though, keep in mind that our review unit is a pre-production model with the software available as of late-March 2020 (BIOS 211, Armoury Crate 2.6.10, GeForce Game Ready 442.77 drivers), thus certain aspects might change with future software updates. Do you have the option to buy it with the possibility of free return, in case you don't like it? We’ve tested both models and here’s what we got (with an X-Rite i1 Display Pro sensor): You’ll find more details about these two in our detailed G14 review. In comparison, the Ryzen 7 4800HS runs at 42+ W for the first runs, before dropping to 35W, so the Ryzen 9 performs better in short-burst loads. Here’s what we got on the QHD screen model, with the brightness set at around 120 nits (~70% brightness). Chromebooks are snappy, easy to use, and inexpensive computers designed for everyday use and Internet-based activities such as browsing, email, text-editing, Youtube, Netflix, light gaming, and the likes. Is it possible to switch off 1660Ti/2060 GPU for CPU cooling with two fans ? Heat also builds up, both on the inside and on the outside. Thanks :), May 23, 2020 at 10:58 am, Let's wait till we get to review the Blade Stealth first. Since a live in emacs while working the crazy lack of home/end/pg up & dn keys also not a, real issue. They now green lit the 2070 model to have that option. I plan on doing everyday tasks, note taking, video/photo editing, and some gaming here and there. How is Asus TUF A17 in terms of thermals and battery life compared to G14 / G15?? Both of these are matte, IPS and non-touch, and fairly similar in terms of specs. I only have one G14 left and could not double-check that closed lid. Battlefield V, The Witcher 3 â recorded with Fraps/in-game FPS counter in campaign mode; Far Cry 5, Middle Earth, Strange Brigade, Red Dead Redemption 2, Tomb Raider games â recorded with the included Benchmark utilities; Red Dead Redemption 2 Optimized profile based on. Asus offers the choice of either a White/Silver (Mirage White) or a Dark Gray (Space Gray) color. And if it does do you connect the screen to the g14 by an hdmi cable or type c? Long story short, I can only offer some realistic battery life results for the retail QHD model, with the screenâs brightness set at around 120 nits (~70% brightness). This profile quiets the fans to 41-42 dB, down from 45-46 dB on Turbo, but it also slightly limits the CPU and that means it runs slightly cooler, averaging temperatures in the 85-90 degrees. The AMD Ryzen 9 processor and 16GB of RAM let you run graphics-heavy games smoothly, while the potent NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 graphics produce high-quality visuals on the 14-inch Full HD display. You can also subscribe without commenting. Imo Turbo with the laptop raised from the desk or one a cooling pad would be ideal. No difference for me between closed and open lid in Perfromance mode. Build quality should be fine on the G14, I'd be more concerned about quality control, this seems to be more and more of a problem with most brands these days. That means you don’t have to carry around the larger brick to work or school, and only grab it when you plan to run games or demanding loads. 1. This is a major issue of this notebook. They could at least do something about the Left/Right arrows, perhaps put Home/End there like they do on Zenbooks. I’ve also used both pre-production and retail models in several different configurations: both the White and the Gray color versions, with or out without the Anime Matrix LED display, both the 120 Hz FHD and the 60 Hz QHD screens, and both the Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 configurations, so I can share with you a few thoughts on living with this laptop, which should help you in your purchase decision. We’ve tested the QHD and 120Hz FHD versions. Further switching to Silent lowers the TDP even more, to around 25W. What would be your recommendation? Raising the laptop from the desk or even better, placing it on a decent cooling pad, helps lower the external case temperatures and the GPU temperatures by 2-3 degrees, but the CPU keeps running at 90-95 degrees in most titles. Are you 100% sure about the fact that an external monitor would fix the the ghosting issue? The Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 Canada is dubbed as the world's most powerful 14-inch Windows 10 gaming laptop. Still, I've left some of my initial thoughts on this topic here: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/37295-razer-blade-stealth-2020/ , 2nd part of the article, June 9, 2020 at 7:51 am. There are some interesting findings there. Long story short, the Ryzen 9 4900HS comes on top of the Ryzen 7 4800HS version in some of the CPU-heavy loads and benchmarks, but the two are within 2-7% in most situations, so the difference is negligible with real-life use. You could check out the Acer Predator Helios 300 with the 144 Hz screen. Update: This tweak helps limit the CPU’s frequency and should address most of the overheating problems. Thanks for the review. Since they are similar I will probably look into the 144hz g15. That’s why, in theory, the Ryzen 7 model is the better value for the money. Your email address will not be published. Details in here. Overall, the gaming experience is similar on Turbo and Performance, so Performance might just be the better-balanced profile, especially if you pair this laptop with a cooling pad in order to drive down those high temperatures. I have to double-check with Asus. thanks for the reviews Especially when you start a game and the fans haven't kicked in yet the cpu boosts while loading and the first game minutes. Do you have any other 15" recommendations? I no longer have any of the quirky units around, just the one that works fine and the Radeon Settings app is installed. Of course, this Zephyrus G14 is not just a performance laptop and can also handle everyday multitasking, browsing and video, while running quietly and coolly, especially on the Silent profile. Thanks a lot if you can help, theres currently little info out there for consumers, April 1, 2020 at 12:45 pm, 1. hi They are designed the run at 35W and offer nearly the same performance as those 45W variants, making them well suited for ultraportables such as this one. I find it interesting that you're suggesting gaming on Performance. In both cases, the Ryzen 9 and 7 processors stabilize at 35W after 15+ runs. Amazon.in: Buy ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 ACRNM, 14" QHD, Ryzen 9 4900HS, RTX 2060 Max Q 6GB GDDR6 Graphics, Gaming Laptop (32GB/1TB SSD/MS Office/Windows 10/Crossover Gray/Anime Matrix/1.7 Kg), GA401IVC-HA275TS online at low price in India on Amazon.in. May 29, 2020 at 8:31 pm, I've never used one myself, so not really. Weâve verified our findings in the more demanding Cinebench R20 loop test, as well as in Prime95. Imo, a Ryzen 7 should be the better value on this chassis, but you might have to go with the 9 in order to get more ram/storage out of the box. From other reviews the 120hz/1080p display comes out ~330nits so is brighter although a ~20ms response time which isn't terrible but not great either. Furthermore, the interior doesn’t show a lot on finger oil on this Space Gray model either. Biggest issue right now as widely reported on reddit: fan profiles need an update via bios hopefully. Of course, there’s no way to change the physical aspects at this point. https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/gbl7ga/lm_repaste_benchmarks_before_and_after/. Battery life is decent, I've had 1 Asus laptop in the past die on me. Accessing the RAM and storage requires you to remove the back panel. You should also make sure to put 3200 MHz DIMMs on this notebook, as otherwise, the memory would work at a lower frequency. I don’t have any recommendations, just make sure to pick something that can accommodate a 20 mm thick laptop. I'll pass this onto Asus. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0";amzn_assoc_enable_interest_ads = "true";amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "fatherday00-20";amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "auto";amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart";amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon";amzn_assoc_region = "US";amzn_assoc_linkid = "b9262bfd0a741abacb709b2abd1d1026";amzn_assoc_emphasize_categories = "13900871";amzn_assoc_fallback_mode = {"type":"search","value":"laptop"};amzn_assoc_default_category = "PCHardware"; For what is worth, I for one don’t even care much about this feature anyway and I’d rather get one of the standard configurations of the G14 without the Anime Matrix array, which are slightly thinner and lighter, at 1.6 kilos.
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